tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post2353161571715369944..comments2024-01-05T12:03:52.460-05:00Comments on No Lawyers - Only Guns and Money: SAF Files Suit In Missouri Over Concealed Carry For Legal ImmigrantsJohn Richardsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03151468462458613615noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-578192610502100352013-12-03T00:21:26.007-05:002013-12-03T00:21:26.007-05:00Law change as of Aug 28 2013. Permanent Residents ...Law change as of Aug 28 2013. Permanent Residents can now get MO CCW.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-20181878308187505162012-07-30T11:38:17.291-04:002012-07-30T11:38:17.291-04:00Exactly. Holders of Green Cards are very very clo...Exactly. Holders of Green Cards are very very close to being citizens. Obviously they can't vote (outside of Tacoma Park, Maryland and the like, and only on local stuff), have a few other citizenship based restrictions, and of course can be deported, but otherwise they pay taxes like a citizen, are subject to the draft, etc. etc. They're even members of the unorganized militia if they've made a deceleration of intent to become a citizen, and that quibble is almost certainly an artifact of the turn of the century issues on immigration when the last update was passed in 1903.ThatWouldBeTellinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16910231314995266781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-14672669562677803842012-07-27T23:18:51.339-04:002012-07-27T23:18:51.339-04:00In SD, the suit was brought by the South Dakota br...In SD, the suit was brought by the South Dakota branch of the ACLU.<br /><br />As to getting precedents, I think it is there already.John Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03151468462458613615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-54714273868517705532012-07-27T20:23:29.701-04:002012-07-27T20:23:29.701-04:00That's fair, but what the SAF and pro gun legi...That's fair, but what the SAF and pro gun legislators want is the ruling in court so that it can.be applied to other states. Who was in charge in SD?Sean D Sorrentinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02710448105506060349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-67907055945206007542012-07-27T20:20:03.080-04:002012-07-27T20:20:03.080-04:00@Sean: Given their success in Omaha and Massachuse...@Sean: Given their success in Omaha and Massachusetts along the ACLU's success in similar cases in Kentucky and South Dakota, I would not be surprised if Missouri does settle quickly. Nonetheless, SAF gets a nice settlement check out of it that they can use for other litigation. That is what happened in Omaha.John Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03151468462458613615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-52891376118145514772012-07-27T19:03:50.629-04:002012-07-27T19:03:50.629-04:00That would be exactly the wrong approach and lots ...That would be exactly the wrong approach and lots of pressure would be brought to bear to prevent that. Here's the reason. This is a slam dunk case. It's not a gun rights issue, the decision rests on "alienage." There is very little room for States to discriminate based upon citizenship. It has to be very specific, and it's a strict scrutiny issue. <br /><br />There was a move to fix the law here in North Carolina before Bateman v. Perdue was decided and we crushed it. Missouri gun rights activists would do the same.Sean D Sorrentinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02710448105506060349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-50645588157087984382012-07-27T18:56:13.589-04:002012-07-27T18:56:13.589-04:00Don't be surprised if the (Republican) legisla...Don't be surprised if the (Republican) legislature and the (well, currently Democratic, conservative except for voter ID) governor fix this before it plays out in court. We just got a nice set of improvements to our CCW laws, e.g. making it clear when revealing your gun is legal, minimum age down to 18 for active duty military, some other nice things. Whoever is elected governor this fall, I would expect/hope.ThatWouldBeTellinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16910231314995266781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-75794782536386576702012-07-27T18:31:52.161-04:002012-07-27T18:31:52.161-04:00This is a case that has application here in North ...This is a case that has application here in North Carolina. I'm looking forward to seeing this one decided.Sean D Sorrentinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02710448105506060349noreply@blogger.com