tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post3813945893471648783..comments2024-01-05T12:03:52.460-05:00Comments on No Lawyers - Only Guns and Money: OK, Ruger, Now I'm ImpressedJohn Richardsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03151468462458613615noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-43993871195292313752014-09-25T16:49:02.036-04:002014-09-25T16:49:02.036-04:00Gotcha.
The 38spl isn't too big, since they m...Gotcha. <br />The 38spl isn't too big, since they make that frame in .357, the 9mm is popular...even though I see this as a niche gun for folks that like 9mm but don't like autos. <br />I don't have a bunch of experience with moon clips save for one revo that uses them but I actually like them much better than shooting a revo w/o them. <br />If the round doesn't have a rim, S&Ws Rube Goldberg 547 isn't the answer if you want to keep cost down. <br />KMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-46995893502235918952014-09-25T02:00:01.308-04:002014-09-25T02:00:01.308-04:00@KM:
Sorry, but I have an aversion to moon clips...@KM: <br /><br />Sorry, but I have an aversion to moon clips - they are fragile, and fiddly, and horribly inconvenient.<br />I acknowledge that they ARE more compact than a speed-loader though, and much faster than loose rounds, while allowing the use of ammunition not normally considered for revolvers.<br /><br />I understand that changing the chamber means that this is no longer "working like a revolver", but stuffing the thing with rimless rounds in a moon clip has already achieved that. <br /><br />To be honest, I am not sure that I understand why it needs to be chambered in 9mm. If .38 Special is physically too big, then maybe the semi-rimmed .38 Super might be a better choice, although even that is still longer than the 9mm case.<br /><br />I was just brain-storming (as I stated), from the initial assumptions that:<br />a) rimless rounds like 9mm were required, <br />but <br />b) moon-clips were undesirable (as John intimated in his update). Sendariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13286039362709773644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-17096082622427062772014-09-24T18:01:22.791-04:002014-09-24T18:01:22.791-04:00Sendarius,
What the hell are you talking about? M...Sendarius, <br />What the hell are you talking about? Making the chamber more like that of an auto for WHY exactly? It's a revolver. <br />It's going to work like a revolver except that this one, as you already know, isn't chambered in a straight wall round. <br />Ruger already took care of the loading and extraction with moon clips.KMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-54119769758927328642014-09-23T02:45:22.126-04:002014-09-23T02:45:22.126-04:00Oops, forgot to add:
The extraction process I lea...Oops, forgot to add:<br /><br />The extraction process I leave to the Ruger engineers. :)Sendariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13286039362709773644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-54107881621270280722014-09-23T02:43:37.606-04:002014-09-23T02:43:37.606-04:00Just brainstorming here ...
Does the 9mm head-spa...Just brainstorming here ...<br /><br />Does the 9mm head-space on the case mouth? (Checking Google ... it seems that it does, but the articles I found say that 9mm is straight wall. I know it's not bottle-necked, but I thought that it was tapered.)<br /><br />It would add to the cost, but would it not be possible to shape each hole in the cylinder such that they more closely resembled the chamber from a semi-auto, including the ledge where the chamber ends and the barrel starts?<br /><br />I can see more accuracy in operation of the cylinder rotation possibly being needed due to the loss of the forcing cone.<br />However, if the diameter of the hole never shrank to less than case diameter except for a short distance at the ledge, the whole thing could continue to operate as a traditional revolver does, except for the whole "head-space from the rim" thing. <br /><br />More expensive due to the need to drill from both ends of the cylinder - possibly three operations; drill through at ledge dimension, drill from rear to finish dimension to head-space depth, drill from front to finish dimension leaving a ledge.<br /><br />Am I way off-base?Sendariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13286039362709773644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-30187881785643159002014-09-22T19:43:20.037-04:002014-09-22T19:43:20.037-04:00They use moon clips:
http://shopruger.com/LCR-9mm-...They use moon clips:<br />http://shopruger.com/LCR-9mm-Moon-Clips/productinfo/90460/Overload in Coloradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11277277751144486368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-52731063216563788782014-09-22T16:33:29.214-04:002014-09-22T16:33:29.214-04:00It will be interesting to see the reaction... and ...It will be interesting to see the reaction... and a heavier frame doesn't hurt! (My opinion)...Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-44297728881211115262014-09-22T14:02:19.731-04:002014-09-22T14:02:19.731-04:00That's a great idea if it really doesn't n...That's a great idea if it really doesn't need moon-clips! You could carry a M&P9 as a regular EDC gun, and one off those as backup in an ankle holster...NotClauswitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14358707844087117280noreply@blogger.com