tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post4116767084431790456..comments2024-01-05T12:03:52.460-05:00Comments on No Lawyers - Only Guns and Money: Don't Think A .22LR Isn't Useful For Self-Defense?John Richardsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03151468462458613615noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-69931942506978707272011-12-22T20:41:45.726-05:002011-12-22T20:41:45.726-05:00Whenever people sneer at the uselessness of .22s, ...Whenever people sneer at the uselessness of .22s, I remember that it was a .22 that very nearly killed Ronald Reagan.Daniel in Brooklinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16296850357629131645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-46774001111545708042011-12-22T11:15:49.863-05:002011-12-22T11:15:49.863-05:00Plus we don't score successful self-defense li...Plus we don't score successful self-defense like our adversaries do, as body counts. We're not allowed to kill criminal per se (that's the job of the judiciary), we're only allowed to stop them, and we care very much about stopping them before they mortally wound us or our loved ones.<br /><br />As a Facklerite, it's my impression that at defensive handgun velocities "stopping power" scales with the diameter (area) of the projectile, including expansion, whereas killing scales the number of holes put through someone. Massad Ayoob relates how testimony of this nature in Massachusetts with agreement in principle by a respected doctor legislator stopped the "ban hollowpoints" movement cold. As I recall New Jersey is the only state to ban them.ThatWouldBeTellinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16910231314995266781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-25635734519204527482011-12-21T22:33:22.330-05:002011-12-21T22:33:22.330-05:00There's a huge difference between "can ki...There's a huge difference between "can kill you" and "will kill you." Yes, a shot be a .22 may be fataly, but only a fool would fail to hedge their bets and choose a .22 when a larger/superior caliber is available.<br /><br />I'd rather be an Internet commando than dangerously naive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-57531048240518488052011-12-21T22:27:02.767-05:002011-12-21T22:27:02.767-05:00CCI mini-mags in temperate or hot weather are very...CCI mini-mags in temperate or hot weather are very reliable in the rifles I have used. Bulk federal much less so and bulk remington worse. I suppose handguns may be less robust and freezing temps do have a negative effect on 22lr.wraith58https://www.blogger.com/profile/17794632505944206066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-29249959502586055762011-12-21T16:40:31.620-05:002011-12-21T16:40:31.620-05:00Without getting into the advisability of using a ....Without getting into the advisability of using a .22 for self defense in terms of power, my biggest other objection to it would be reliability. I don't shoot match grade ammo, but any brick of your average hollow point will have 5 to 15 failures to fire, at least the first time around. Rimfire priming is inherently less reliable than center fire. <br />In terms of power the .22 beats the .25, but bang beats click any day, and no I am not suggesting that a .25acp is an adequate self defense round.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05993938643115716912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-20179067977321943052011-12-21T11:51:17.486-05:002011-12-21T11:51:17.486-05:00There was a girl who shot a would-be rapist at a m...There was a girl who shot a would-be rapist at a motel here in either NC or SC not too long ago. A .22 wouldn't be my caliber of choice, but whatever works I guess.<br />Merry Christmas!Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11308171394825291900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-15028636686853600602011-12-21T10:43:44.731-05:002011-12-21T10:43:44.731-05:00The gun you've got in your hand is infinitely ...The gun you've got in your hand is infinitely better than the cannon in your safe ....<br /><br />I'd pick the hottest .22 hollowpoint over the hottest .25acp hollowpoint any day, especially out of a mousegun.The Packetmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12434512824774433244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-11942328016760568372011-12-20T22:29:23.132-05:002011-12-20T22:29:23.132-05:00John, check your email. Sent you a Christmas card....John, check your email. Sent you a Christmas card... ;>)RKVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00287245520458090702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-42081817450312873932011-12-20T22:17:41.426-05:002011-12-20T22:17:41.426-05:00@Pyrotek85: I think are correct. In this case, I&#...@Pyrotek85: I think are correct. In this case, I'm guessing the homeowner made a lucky shot.John Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03151468462458613615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-50898994497745916592011-12-20T22:07:00.169-05:002011-12-20T22:07:00.169-05:00I think the problem with .22lr isn't that it c...I think the problem with .22lr isn't that it can't be deadly, but it's less consistent against for a large target like a human. I think a good aspect however is the recoil, it's probably easier to maintain good accuracy with it in a stressful situation, provided you practice of course.Pyrotek85https://www.blogger.com/profile/06287477248875225661noreply@blogger.com