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USPS - A Win In ColoradoJohn Richardsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03151468462458613615noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-63070870205209630672015-10-19T08:18:06.008-04:002015-10-19T08:18:06.008-04:00Hi Dear, have you been certainly visiting this sit...Hi Dear, have you been certainly visiting this site daily, if that's the case you then will certainly get good knowledge.<a href="http://www.tenenbaumlawfirm.com/" rel="nofollow">Criminal Defense</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11919184459384096448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-66299209707420825482014-12-26T00:35:11.704-05:002014-12-26T00:35:11.704-05:00I continuously continue coming to your website onc...I continuously continue coming to your website once more simply in case you have posted new contents.<a href="http://www.rsrlaw.com/" rel="nofollow">elder law attorneys in woodbridge va</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12127619053367081322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-10204799454684929852014-11-19T01:37:54.351-05:002014-11-19T01:37:54.351-05:00Laws are for universal acceptance they cant be cha...Laws are for universal acceptance they cant be changed for the convenience or in convenience of 1 person anyway. <a href="http://www.parkmeetandgreet.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">cheap gatwick parking</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16505491121284226655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-67609916389119028922014-10-17T05:38:44.885-04:002014-10-17T05:38:44.885-04:00We do live in a society where rich and wealthy and...We do live in a society where rich and wealthy and the ones with the resource get to do any thing they want. there is no check and balance over them at all. <a href="http://www.easyparkinggatwick.co.uk/meet-and-greet.php/" rel="nofollow">meet and greet parking Gatwick </a>carlagracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662091021960640076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-25630597597886518312014-06-25T09:15:03.844-04:002014-06-25T09:15:03.844-04:00This is the root cause of the hassles where elites...This is the root cause of the hassles where elites or the people with power and money are allowed to practice anything despite of illegal behavior, as this has been clearly mentioned in the start of this blog the way Judge Richard Matsch of the US District Court for the District of Colorado has ordered the US Postal Service to take all steps necessary to allow Tab Bonidy to park in the post office parking lot in Avon with a firearm in his car. <a href="http://www.mobitairportparking.co.uk/car-parking-birmingham" rel="nofollow">Meet and greet car parking Birmingham</a> keeps the things balanced and doesn't let any unwanted situation occur.<br />Suzan Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08076528232999266758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-57929005933722736932013-08-28T09:32:05.490-04:002013-08-28T09:32:05.490-04:00I am very amazed by the information of this blog a...I am very amazed by the information of this blog and i am glad i had a look over the blog. thank you so much for sharing such great information.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.americanfleet.org/boulder-dia-transportation" rel="nofollow">DIA transportation service</a><br /><a href="http://www.americanfleet.org/boulder-dia-transportation" rel="nofollow">DIA transportation </a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08555535510483401530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-90251012644307374082013-07-11T22:17:17.624-04:002013-07-11T22:17:17.624-04:00This should not even gone to court or it is worded...This should not even gone to court or it is worded wrong. It states "that the Defendants take such action as is necessary to permit Tab Bonidy to use the public parking lot adjacent to the Avon Post Office Building with a firearm authorized by his Concealed Carry Permit secured in his car in a reasonably prescribed manner". It is already perfectly legal to go to a Post Office and park on public land while a firearm is in the vehicle. <br /><br />The problem is if the parking lot is owned by the USPS. IE if you go to a small PO that is on main st USA and you park on mail street it is perfectly legal. If you use a PO that is a stand alone PO and has its own parking lot that is own by USPS you are in violation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-57189557847309593562013-07-11T18:26:23.421-04:002013-07-11T18:26:23.421-04:00It would be nice to get Congress to define "s...It would be nice to get Congress to define "sensitive place."<br /><br />I suggest:<br /><br />"Sensitive places include only those places the general public cannot enter in the normal course of business, or, any place the general public can enter in the normal course of business that has in place active control measures at each public entrance to include: metal detectors and/or physical screening and armed security personnel."<br /><br />To use the Post Office example: the parking lot, box lobby, and customer service counter area are not "sensitive" as they are open to the public - behind the counter or behind the "employee's only" door are off-limits to the public and thus sensitive.<br /><br />The various Federal agencies always have locked access doors beyond their lobbies, those would remain off limits as the public cannot go there without an escort and permission.<br /><br />The military bases typically require passes, no change for them. Airport screening and secure areas with locked doors would be unaffected (not saying I'm for that, but it would disarm one angle of complaint).<br /><br />Federal Park buildings would not be sensitive except the "employee only" areas.<br /><br />Want to call the various monuments and buildings sensitive? Put your (our) money where your mouth is and put in screening. If they are truly sensitive it should be easy to justify the cost.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414687981098467556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-18331243146230192042013-07-11T16:46:43.179-04:002013-07-11T16:46:43.179-04:00The big challenge is getting Federal judges to wri...The big challenge is getting Federal judges to write those words down. Once they do, it becomes a "controversy" that the higher courts can take up. If they never say that, higher courts will just go on as they have, ignoring the right. Sean D Sorrentinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02710448105506060349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-10776746965077005212013-07-11T16:38:45.658-04:002013-07-11T16:38:45.658-04:00Sean, "the big words" don't apply in...Sean, "the big words" don't apply in many states as of now. Would that it were otherwise.RKVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00287245520458090702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-76941307077051515862013-07-11T15:54:31.618-04:002013-07-11T15:54:31.618-04:00Now here's a Twist: Let us Stipulate that a F...Now here's a Twist: Let us Stipulate that a Federal Court House is a Sensitive Place. Does this apply to ITS Parking Lot? And will this same Judge rule the same way if someone files a Suit challenging the Firearm Ban of the Federal Parking Lot?<br /><br />IS Sauce for the Goose Sauce for the Gander?Bubblehead Les.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00730873284089958084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-66389189852032513922013-07-11T15:51:41.899-04:002013-07-11T15:51:41.899-04:00I agree, Sean. And I see the Wisconsin case where...I agree, Sean. And I see the Wisconsin case where the judge stated that open carry was not realistically viable in urbanized society these days as pushing for a Shall Issue or Constitutional Carry scheme in general, because a lot of Americans live and work where "discrete carry" is simply more viable. <br /><br />Not that I think Open Carry should be regulated beyond the general possession and usage limits that would apply to ANY firearm wearer (no prohibited persons, no unsafe handling, no unnecessary discharges in crowded areas, etc.) Nor do I think that "printing" should be a violation of CCW regulations.Geodkythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17340718574781403778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-57707371718321708412013-07-11T11:12:42.369-04:002013-07-11T11:12:42.369-04:00You are all missing the big words. The words that ...You are all missing the big words. The words that will actually make a difference.<br /><br />"In sum, openly carrying a firearm outside the home is a liberty protected by the Second Amendment."<br /><br />That's the big win. If OC is a liberty protected by the 2A, what's New Jersey going to do when people start to open carry? That's a big step on the way to a circuit split and a forced US Supreme Court case.Sean D Sorrentinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02710448105506060349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-81744324546075598272013-07-11T11:09:41.238-04:002013-07-11T11:09:41.238-04:00If everyone who should be a member of NRA was a me...If everyone who should be a member of NRA was a member of NRA this wouldn't even be an issue. Members matter! Go here for a $10 discount and JOIN!!! www.nra.org/joinhere Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-45082207920837093182013-07-11T11:06:27.693-04:002013-07-11T11:06:27.693-04:00Note that the judge allowed the sensitive place ar...Note that the judge allowed the sensitive place argument to be "presumptive" because the plaintiff did not specifically challenge that to the required extent, or at all. So from a precedent standpoint, someone can still go back and with this ruling in full force still attack that presumption. <br /><br />In other words, the judge carefully left that door open by essentially saying, "Nobody is arguing over the sensitivity of the inside of the post office, so we're just going to assume it is off limits and go from there."<br /><br />It's a lot like the footnote in Heller that the court was not ruling on the constitutionality of a permit-to-own system only because nobody asked them to. They didn't say they were OK; they just said nobody presented an argument that they were not.<br /><br />Future plaintiffs can still go back and challenge the presumption that the public portions of the building are a sensitive place. That said, I would not do so. Yet.Patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-14224904796132922002013-07-11T10:48:29.457-04:002013-07-11T10:48:29.457-04:00Miguel -- Just a Colorado case, unless USPS appeal...Miguel -- Just a Colorado case, unless USPS appeals it all the way to SCOTUS and loses. Even if USPS appeals to 10th Circuit, loses, and SCOTUS refuses cert, it would then affect only CO, KS, NM, OK, UT, and WY. It only becomes nationally binding if SCOTUS rules that way.<br /><br />HOWEVER, it certainly is precedential and can be used as an argument in cases in other districts and circuits.<br /><br />RKV -- While I agree with your definition of "sensitive", I would argue that SCOTUS did not, given they list both schools and government buildiongs as being among sensitive locations. <br /><br />HOWEVER, please note that (first): as you say, this was given in dicta, not as a holding; and (second): they merely stated that the Heller decision DID NOT challenge such prohibitions. . . in fact they did not even actually _analyze_ such prohibitions, as it wasn't necessary to resolve Heller. (And such reservations are actually a sign of a GOOD ruling -- you're only supposed to settle the actual controversy presented; in Heller, the controversy was limited to self-defense with a handgun IN THE HOME). <br /><br />Technically, the question as to what a "sensitive place" is, and whether a ban would be Constitutional even there, were left open (although, with the definition of "sensitive place" you and I favor, I would argue such a ban IS Constututional, just as it is unquestionably OK to disarm a prisoner in custody).Geodkythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17340718574781403778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-56658980568168673612013-07-11T09:22:30.040-04:002013-07-11T09:22:30.040-04:00Post offices are not sensitive places, irrespectiv...Post offices are not sensitive places, irrespective of the dicta in Heller. A sensitive place, is by definition, a place where the government assumes full responsibility for the safety of the citizens it disarms on entering said sensitive place - to the point where they can be sued for damages if they fail to perform. The post office does no such thing. It is a gun free zone - aka victim disarmament zone, aka free fire zone for criminals and crazies. For a real sensitive place, think federal courthouse with armed marshals. Maybe this result is the best we can get, but I would hesitate to call it a win.RKVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00287245520458090702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-79128731820373464922013-07-11T09:04:33.353-04:002013-07-11T09:04:33.353-04:00While I applaud this small victory we still have a...While I applaud this small victory we still have a LOOOONG way to go. Our 'wannabe' masters still believe that the 2A says;<br /><br />A disorganized and disoriented militia, being necessary for the security of a state free to do anything it wants, the right of the people to keep and bear benign-looking, non-military guns whose magazine capacities do not exceed an arbitrarily determined number of rounds, and bear arms in a non-scary way, shall be tolerated as an opiate of the masses unless the people really try to bear arms (except during hunting season on government-approved lands) or as long as the arbitrary licensing requirements of the several states are obeyed, shall not be infringed (pending acts of Congress, acts of state legislatures, county commissions and city councils, to the contrary).<br /><br />BobSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4146148016062694502.post-73733361492806904062013-07-11T08:21:09.800-04:002013-07-11T08:21:09.800-04:00Is this just a Colorado decision or will it be app...Is this just a Colorado decision or will it be applied across the country?Miguelhttp://gunfreezone.netnoreply@blogger.com